I said I was going to get up by Wednesday, so we are just going to call this Wednesday, deal with it. 😀
So… this is obviously a bit of odd page. It’s actually a 2/3 page or so, but with only three panels. This was sort of a compromise I figured I’d try. I knew that this conversation was going to go on a lot, and while more panels helps a lot in terms of layout (this is a mess to read) and expressions, I just thought it wasn’t worth it to make this two updates, and the big panel approach let me do this in one page. I could, of course, have condensed the dialogue vastly, but there’s things here that are relevant, both in detail and in the relationship between Mir and Miko.
This page took while because it’s not the page I originally planned to do here in the outline, so some tweaks were made (this is being brought earlier), it’s sort of two combined pages while still being less than a page, and I’m having some computer trouble with editing the comics. I’ve put off updating my computer too long, and it’s beginning to have some serious performance issues with image editing and things (the comic files are saved a stupid resolution, I can probably get around this be downsizing them before i do the bubbling and stuff, but… changing the process would probably end up taking longer than just putting up with the problems in it).
I will say that Miko is wrong that lab five was the oldest instance of Query/MYM, she just doesn’t probably know something that readers might be able to guess.
Typically when Mium shuts down, he wipes himself off a machine to prevent his code form being discovered while he’s inactive to protect it from attempts at breaching his code, transferring to other machines in his network. Part of why Miko is correct to be upset is that since Lab Five wasn’t connected to the rest of MYM at the time, he may have actually lost data… that said, MYM tends to be exceedingly clever when it comes that sort of thing, more than Miko or probably anyone actually realizes. MYM does not like to lose data.
Miko makes reference to “Implosion” and “Hyper Rationalization”; these are two ways that an SMAI can die (or become insane/useless, as I believe Arron referred to it). Gridlock being another common one. Gridlock being when they develop too many interlocking restraints and priorities and become unable to function, implosion being when they get caught in a run away calculation that devolves inward losing objectiveness and starting to infinitely calculate something (generally trying to find a perfect answer where one cannot be found), and hyper-rationalization being the most scary sort, where they come to a conclusion that is rational only to a SMAI (sometimes involving wiping out a large chunk of humanity, themselves, or some other drastic answer). These are not the only dangers, but would generally considered the fate of most SMAI as keeping the balance between the three points is frought with peril in as system that can evolve extremely rapidly in some cases. Most SMAI have restraints set up to make them fall into Implosion or Gridlock inevitable to avoid the more drastic an unpredictable styles of meltdowns, but it can be tricky to have that as a fail safe as humans cannot fully predict an SMAIs behavior (without having more calculating power than the SMAI in the first place).
…it is far too late to be delving into side tangents like that. I’ve been awake for over 20 hours now when means my brain is probably on the path to one of those fates. Early meetings can die a fiery death. I’ve devolved into rambling at least. Let’s hope most people gave up reading this around paragraph two. That was a probably a reasonable amount of ramble.
…I’m just going to hit publish now before I get myself into more trouble typing. I’ll be back tomorrow to fix any of the inevitable spelling grammar errors.
Don’t worry, we’ll get back to what Naomi is up to, we’d just been following her for awhile, and it’s important to move along Miko’s thread before too much time passes.
Next page will probably be Wednesday. Just to keep everyone on in the loop. We are still running 1/week, but it’s been a bit variable.
EDIT/UPDATE: Going to take another day or two. Will see what I can get done tonight, but don’t think I’ll be able to get it done tonight… small chance but probably not.
Please take care of yourself, first. Comic second.
(We’ll just hit refresh every 10 minutes. Don’t mind us.)
That’s why I try to give up dates and timeframes so that people don’t feel the need to refresh too much when there’s not much of a chance.
I do have the next about a month storyboarded out, just been short on drawing time… been having some trouble properly binning my tasks and allocating time for things as days become a bit of a blur and sanity leaks. I should have time, just don’t seem to end up getting caught up when I hope I will.
“I should have time, just don’t seem to end up getting caught up when I hope I will.”
Story of my life.
But I’m about to go from very behind to “I have a year to plan this for the next time…” Plenty of time, right?!
😉
I’d say bite the bullet and delay it till next monday. Constantly pushing is only going to result in worse slippage over time.
In the third panel, I believe that it should be “you can always trust people to do *what* they’re going to do”. “what” instead of “that”.
This is, quite possibly, the most personable either of them have ever been in a conversation, and it’s with each other.
…..man I hope we get to see other characters’ reactions to that….
It would be nice. However it sort of feels like the calm before the storm. Why not be pleasant to the person you’re about to violently murder? It might throw them off guard.
Ever read the webcomic “Genocide Man”?
In that one, it was an article of canon that SMAI’s would eventually commit suicide in some manner, and the more powerful the SMAI, the faster that event would arrive.
In one instance, a hyper-intelligent SMAI lasted exactly five minutes from activation to elimination, as it did the job it was assigned and simultaneously redirected multiple airplanes to converge on its (non-airborne) position.
So… a combination of implosion and hyper-rationalization?
Larry Niven’s Draco Tavern has a short story where someone punks the main character by selling him the designs for a highly advanced AI.
The joke is revealed at the end (spoiler alert!) that the reason AI isn’t used is not because of the difficulty, but rather because they all have a short, expensive shelf life. At the end of which they shut themselves off and refuse to restart.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Draco_Tavern
Huh, this is the first time we’ve seen Dr. Mir in what can pass for a good mood. I was starting to think she had a headache when her brain was scanned and she got stuck that way. Now, though, she’s almost not unpleasant. Must be the Mad Science afterglow, I guess.
Does anyone have a reading order for the first panel?
Top left downwards; remaining top row rightwards; center; remaining bubbles downwards.
With the added clue that all bubbles with their tail inverted are Miko speaking (the computer which I am assuming is Miko right now).
It sort of makes sense if you just imagine that the top was split into two panels. That’s the only part that doesn’t flow particularly obviously, but if you read it like you’d read it with an extra panel in the gap, it makes sense I think.
… hang on, is that “poof-ling” or “poo-fling”?
I’m reading it as poof-ling.
Given that it is Miko referenced, I can see the argument for it being poo-fling. Given that it is Mir speaking, I don’t think Mir would use “poo”.
Pretty sure that’s Miko speaking and calling Mir a Pink-haired-poofling.
All the bubbles where the tail is inverted are Miko (or the computer which I am assuming is currently Miko) talking.
Very odd. I read that as Miko speaking originally, but somehow I managed to invert that in my brain by the time I posted. Still thinking poof-ling though.
Thanks!
I’m unclear why Mir would refer to Miko as ‘pink haired’ when she clearly isn’t. This feels like a stronger guide on who said this than the bit where poofling just doesn’t sound like something Mir would say, whether she meant a flinger of poo or an entity of poof. I believe Miko intends the entity of poof version rather than suggesting that Mir would deign to touch that stuff with her hands.
In any event, there’s also the bit Ferrus pointed out.
First Babylon, then Miko, now Theseus … it’s becoming more and more clear that Central is “our” Earth. :p
… now where, from whom, and in reference to whom did Mir pick up “”, huh?
Last bubble in panel one: Linguistic development notwithstanding, I believe “who’s” should still be “WHOSE”.
First bubble in panel three: “to do that they’re going to do” should be “to do WHAT they’re going to do”.
Third bubble in panel three: “move you’re damn feet” should be “move YOUR damn feet”.
If there is anyone I forgive cutting away from Naomi for, it’s Miko.
I love a lot of things on this page. I’ll have to wait for translators to tell me what I care about plotwise, but I love Miko sitting on the program window so much it’s breaking my brain. Seeing her adapt Mium’s habits being fused with him and adapting that to being an avatar on a screen… freaking awesome.
The insult regarding pole vaulting at a limbo contest may one of the best insults I’ve ever heard.
Stay sane and healthy. Life without this comic would be a lesser thing. Now my poor refresh button can at last rest for the night.