As much as I would prefer the original was lost to time and never seen again, I’ve fixed the link. Of course, at this point I would prefer to updated version was lost to time and never seen again. Appreciate the note though (though I don’t know why anyone would click on those links 😛 )
I suppose that’s why I leave them up, but it doesn’t mean I have to be happy about them 😛
I removed the cut to Levenworth as it gave the incorrect impression the next scene was at Levenworth, and served no real purpose. I removed the cut to Peter, because it didn’t really serve any purpose (considering we meet Peter fairly early on), and I later use the similar way of showing-not-showing a different character that I think it works better for.
Plus in the original version I really used the whole concept of cutting away from the conversation to show the object of the conversation a lot, and later on almost entirely drop this style, so it’s a bit more consistent.
The art evolution steps are interesting to look at.
For example, although I was fairly good at detailed drawing from the get go, things I draw tend to suffer from an uncanny valley effect and I have a hard time imparting expression. Your art has gotten to a point where even with the fairly simple lines you are achieving expression miles beyond anything I’ve ever managed.
This page in particular (or today’s this page in case you update it again) is an interesting partial point in the evolution of your style for expressiveness. While some of the proportions and placements are off, the expression is still there.
This is something that likely becomes more clear later. While the characters are in Malsa, they are not representatives of it’s government. While I wouldn’t call their office an Embassy per se, it’s probably the easiest way to think of it.
As for to where, well, that probably comes up much later 😉
“We can sure he didn’t” should be “We can BE sure he didn’t”
“There is much his going to learn there” should be “There is much HE is going to learn there.”
Hi! Thanks for the corrections! The writing on these early pages is very rough, and, while I do try, I am an almost supernaturally bad proof reader.
I had a bit of help earlier when someone pointed out I’d spelled “Bureau” wrong in every single instance I’d used it…
I’ve updated the page above to reflect your corrections! Always happy for the helping hand in cleaning up errors, if you happen to stumble across anymore (of which I am sure there are), I’m always happy to hear about them. It’s my devout wish to redo these early pages someday, but I do try to at least squash typos when they are pointed out.
Rereading again while reading the comments more, this one made me laugh, I tend to let my perfectionist nature prevent me from making comments unless I proofread them like 3 dozen times, probably why I was lurking since at the latest page 162(it’s where my bookmark is, not sure if I ever updated it after catching up the first time or not, some comics I have some I haven’t).
Luckily I have managed to suppress my perfectionism when it comes to others efforts for the most part, so at least with written works unless the errors cause me to pause I usually wont notice them.
One of the big barriers to posting the comic online was that I am really not a big fan of putting up something that’s deeply flawed – art, grammar, story, what not. It should be obvious that this falls into all those categories – it gets better, but between my starting artistic talent(none), my ability to proofread(none), and the nature of webcomics in that you’re reading a non-professional edited story (if you ever get to read a pre-edit draft of any novel, at least in my experience, they tend to be… less focused and more ridiculous)… well, it’s sort of like the worlds most public type of rough draft in some ways and everyone can see it. 😉
Putting this up has been something of an attempt to work on getting better rather than just saying “eh, I’m not very good at that, better do something else”. Results are a mixed bag 😛 But that’s also why I leave the original version of pages up, and leave up the corrections and so forth once I’ve corrected them – I think it’s good for people to see that it gets where it gets over time with a lot of practice, help and editing 😛 People don’t like to be bad at things, even when it’s minor stuff, and I’m definitely not an exception to that.
I’ve been trying to get away to let users edit their comments for longer than the 5 minutes without making people actually log in (as I fully understand not wanting to commit things to a permenant record when it might have a vexing mistake), but haven’t found a good all in one solution, and have been thus far too lazy and/or busy to write my own full comment module for the site, and am unwilling to swap to a system that won’t keep the archive of comments.
By the way, the Defunct link is plain text, not a link.
As much as I would prefer the original was lost to time and never seen again, I’ve fixed the link. Of course, at this point I would prefer to updated version was lost to time and never seen again. Appreciate the note though (though I don’t know why anyone would click on those links 😛 )
It’s a good comparison point for art evolution. Plus interesting to see how past renditions of the same page were….rendered.
I suppose that’s why I leave them up, but it doesn’t mean I have to be happy about them 😛
I removed the cut to Levenworth as it gave the incorrect impression the next scene was at Levenworth, and served no real purpose. I removed the cut to Peter, because it didn’t really serve any purpose (considering we meet Peter fairly early on), and I later use the similar way of showing-not-showing a different character that I think it works better for.
Plus in the original version I really used the whole concept of cutting away from the conversation to show the object of the conversation a lot, and later on almost entirely drop this style, so it’s a bit more consistent.
The art evolution steps are interesting to look at.
For example, although I was fairly good at detailed drawing from the get go, things I draw tend to suffer from an uncanny valley effect and I have a hard time imparting expression. Your art has gotten to a point where even with the fairly simple lines you are achieving expression miles beyond anything I’ve ever managed.
This page in particular (or today’s this page in case you update it again) is an interesting partial point in the evolution of your style for expressiveness. While some of the proportions and placements are off, the expression is still there.
Pardon me, but if Peter is “Here in Malsa,” why would he need to be extradited … and to where? He is there, just in school.
This is something that likely becomes more clear later. While the characters are in Malsa, they are not representatives of it’s government. While I wouldn’t call their office an Embassy per se, it’s probably the easiest way to think of it.
As for to where, well, that probably comes up much later 😉
“We can sure he didn’t” should be “We can BE sure he didn’t”
“There is much his going to learn there” should be “There is much HE is going to learn there.”
Hi! Thanks for the corrections! The writing on these early pages is very rough, and, while I do try, I am an almost supernaturally bad proof reader.
I had a bit of help earlier when someone pointed out I’d spelled “Bureau” wrong in every single instance I’d used it…
I’ve updated the page above to reflect your corrections! Always happy for the helping hand in cleaning up errors, if you happen to stumble across anymore (of which I am sure there are), I’m always happy to hear about them. It’s my devout wish to redo these early pages someday, but I do try to at least squash typos when they are pointed out.
Once again, thanks for comment and corrections.
ignore this it is trivial trolling at it’s worst and not in the comic “It’s my devote..” should be devout.
Pedantic, perhaps, but not trolling 😉
Trust me, I get enough trolling comments that never make it through the approval filter to know the difference 😛
Of course, trying to proofread all my comments/commentaries will probably not be good for your sanity 😛
Rereading again while reading the comments more, this one made me laugh, I tend to let my perfectionist nature prevent me from making comments unless I proofread them like 3 dozen times, probably why I was lurking since at the latest page 162(it’s where my bookmark is, not sure if I ever updated it after catching up the first time or not, some comics I have some I haven’t).
Luckily I have managed to suppress my perfectionism when it comes to others efforts for the most part, so at least with written works unless the errors cause me to pause I usually wont notice them.
One of the big barriers to posting the comic online was that I am really not a big fan of putting up something that’s deeply flawed – art, grammar, story, what not. It should be obvious that this falls into all those categories – it gets better, but between my starting artistic talent(none), my ability to proofread(none), and the nature of webcomics in that you’re reading a non-professional edited story (if you ever get to read a pre-edit draft of any novel, at least in my experience, they tend to be… less focused and more ridiculous)… well, it’s sort of like the worlds most public type of rough draft in some ways and everyone can see it. 😉
Putting this up has been something of an attempt to work on getting better rather than just saying “eh, I’m not very good at that, better do something else”. Results are a mixed bag 😛 But that’s also why I leave the original version of pages up, and leave up the corrections and so forth once I’ve corrected them – I think it’s good for people to see that it gets where it gets over time with a lot of practice, help and editing 😛 People don’t like to be bad at things, even when it’s minor stuff, and I’m definitely not an exception to that.
I’ve been trying to get away to let users edit their comments for longer than the 5 minutes without making people actually log in (as I fully understand not wanting to commit things to a permenant record when it might have a vexing mistake), but haven’t found a good all in one solution, and have been thus far too lazy and/or busy to write my own full comment module for the site, and am unwilling to swap to a system that won’t keep the archive of comments.