Comic for Tuesday, February 23rd, 2011
…pretty late. As you may guess, the same thing that usually gets me in trouble got me in trouble. I had two pages, and I was like… but what if I stuffed them both into one page…? And it took a long time because I had to rearrange and re-dialogue parts.
There’s a few things I should probably point; they are things that made sense to cut from the page in various ways, but may help clarify parts:
- The light green haired girl is Elmon’s heir, not Saraine’s heir. Saraine’s heir isn’t here, though the darker green haired girl does belong to her family.
- The blue haired burau lieutenant is essentially saying “we cannot kill all of them” and that “I have to report this to the Bureau”; while Ashvalt is nominally her superior in the field, she does have a more civilian chain of command as well.
- Kally only recently started using the NavDragon app again. This was sort of a plot point that just never really came up – Kally found not using it a pain, but generally tried to not use it (unlike the IDS Analysts, who definitely just kept using Peter’s tools). As Kally is one of the few people that understands how good Peter is at tracking people she was fairly meticulous in keeping her stuff clean; this is why it was fairly hard for Peter to find her when she was kidnapped. Hard being relatively there, I suppose. He just let Mium brute force trawl the entire NavTrans network until he could locate the auto cab that picked her up and where it was, which has been noted a few times was something that quite a few people noticed compared to Mium’s generally less detectable methods. That said, as one can probably guess, her NavDragon app is very good at finding things. This makes exceedingly convenient, and it’s a bit of a reoccurring thing that Kally doesn’t quite understand how to use more normal navigation devices (for example, putting someone’s name into a more-GPS like device rather than an address).
- One side tangent is that Saraine’s heir isn’t capable of using Void; Saraine is the only Maslan mage that can use it. Sometimes mages are reluctant to kill the only practioner of something as it represents cutting off a potential of magic. In this case, hearing Kally speak with knowledge of what the magic was and how it works may remove the reluctance. That said, I decided to not bring up it on the page because it didn’t really factor into Ashvalt’s decision here, beyond making a note that the IDS recognizes the magic and might know more about it; which is probably important, just not directly relevant. It is something Ashvalt made a mental note to follow up on, but it didn’t really make sense for him to say anything about that, and he’s not a thought-point-of-view character.
- Saraine was actually a generation older than Ashvalt, and fair bit older. She is generally considered one of the more powerful mages; that she was killed is probably going to shake things up slightly, as she was arguably the strongest duelist (in a way) of the Rogue Family mages, at least in terms of something other mages fear, though in part that is because she hadn’t retired from the last rounds of fighting largely, so her power is somewhat more storied that known among most younger generations. Kally is probably one of the few mages in the country that didn’t really fear her… Kally doesn’t fear many people in the country, though there’s handful that could at least rival her (like Sophie)… though I suppose she’s a little wary of Mium. Kally tends to be wary of Null Casters in general as they are bad match up for her, and Mium is a somewhat enigmatic Null Caster.
- Saraine was generally a better mage than Ashvalt, she just essentially had no reason to specialize in “calculation quick draw” as Void would almost always be faster – easier to deny magic and than “take your time”. That said, nothing is certain in a fight like that, and even without the opportunity presented here, it’s almost certain Ashvalt had given a great deal of thought to how to fight her if it ever came to that. One of Saraine’s obvious weaknesses is fighting a lot of mages – it would be sort of the same as fighting Kally that Void can be flooded and starts to get less effective. Kally has enough power that the number of mages where that became a problem dropped to “1”.
Cutting to them talking about Kally’s kidnapping may seem odd spot, but it’s just sort of Naomi’s way of saying “these things happen”; I did cut a bit about where they were going, but that’s because it seemed a little obvious by later context (to where Arkady is). Both because they want to take bring his brother to him, and because Naomi is worried about him.
Anyway… super late and I was in a rambling mood I suppose. So… long ramble. G’night. Or g’morning. w/e it is now.
You know what would be fabulous any time you want a side project? (Haha yes I know you’re busy and this is wishful thinking)
A stand alone throwback comic about Ashvalt and the mage war and how the consul came to power. At what point did this ruthless strategist decide he didn’t want his children to have to defend his throne, even if he was capable of securing it? Why/how did the consul get his respect, or were there others before her? Was she just a convenient figure head or did he see back then how efficient and ruthless she was? It would make a great story.
Known green team survivors are dark green haired mage from Saraine’s family and the light green haired mage who is Elmon’s heir. Fatalities shown are two maybe stomped by the dragon as they are just bloody smears plus the wicked witch, Saraine. The bald guy Maomi flipped, the green haired guy Naomi punched and the brown/black haired guy who ended up shooting himself due to Kally’s magic could be the bloody smears. An overhead view of the carnage or some accounting would be cool but Past might not have the time or inclination.
Is this the first time Naomi rides a dragon?
Stylish debut!
Probably? She takes to it well.
Tell me panel 10 wouldn’t make an awesome poster.
Gods, that just got me to envision a Dragon Knight Naomi. And its slightly scary.
All I can say is how terrifying would Kally be if she were to fight with no restrictions or hindrances, zooming across a battlefield whilst riding Fluffy. I would also like to reiterate just how much I love Naomi’s character and her absolute disregard for normal person transportation conventions thanks to her “I’m nigh indestructible, I shall take the most direct route” mentality. Always brings a smile to my face 😀
Fair enough; I did note that, despite the Doll of Destruction being the usual level of justified fear, Ila chose to threaten to go Full Naomi….
I don’t think Ila really knows who Camilla is (or even Kally at that point). Naomi would be the more familiar reference point for her.
I am not going to disagree with the level of fear appropriate for a Full Naomi… But doubt Ila would have direct experience with that, either.
What Ila is familiar with is, when Team Peter wants to really cut loose, it’s not Mium Efive and Mium Efaite, but either Mium and Naomi.
Of course, knowing that Mium casts via a remote casting rig, and that’s powered by Miko, we know the double Mium makes no sense. But I don’t know that Ila knows how Mium casts, and I don’t think that the rest of team Peter is particularly keen on her finding out.
After all, Ila is only loyal to Team Peter because of Tasty Food, wanting to learn how to defeat Mium, and the threat of being disassembled if she returns to AVon, especially if she does that before defeating Mium. As such, any part of the topic of ‘How Mium actually works’ is probably something to avoid around her. Fortunately, it’s not something that’s discussed much.
I think Ashvalt just became one of my favorite characters.
Is it just me, or are his ears pointy?
“Yeah, I’ll just drop in.”
“Don’t you think we should…call..first?”
That got a chuckle.
Also, Naomi is really playing with fire. How many hints, and close calls with authority figures, can she receive before she gets it that she REALLY needs to get on the ball and wash the dye out before someone acts upon the law and arrests her for pretending to be a natural born?
Nononono! I wasn’t done commenting on last week’s comments!
Apparently you can get away with a lot. Given that the Family Fued just went hot again, maybe the color of your hair (skin, eyes, pet) suddenly isn’t nearly so important.
And of course her ID card still has her unnatural hair colour on it, hence her reluctance to show it. But in this circumstance, I am not sure what is worse – if she expects them to recognise her and they don’t, or she expects them to recognise her and they do, then take exception to her hair dye?
Arkady already knows her hair is dyed, and she expects Arkady to be down there.
And the number of people that can drop like a rock from the sky, create a crater, and then introduce herself is probably a short list.
All the people on that last are those you would want to KNOW were on your side though, or start shooting at as soon as they were in range…
Well, looks like she did explode!
That’s interesting.
good commentary about the locator app designed by peter and how it tied into how hard of a time it was finding Summers because she stopped using it. I like how that kind of stuff is explained.
I am assuming all that power Saraine had absorbed has to go *somewhere*, although given i-codes are a thing, perhaps Ashvalt should keep on slicing and dicing?
Gods, that is an aggressive power play from Ashvalt. Then again I’m not sure the rogue families ever stopped dealing with assassins coming after them.
Panel 9
___Bubble 1: as you [are] in [my] custody
___Bubble 3: th[e]n you deal…
Panel 10: is he [a] powerful
actually, the “my” is not technically needed and it works grammatically without it. It does still need the “are”.
Yeah… I threw the “my” in just in case it was a typo, lol
These should be fixed; the reason Ashvalt doesn’t say “my” as technically it’s the Bureau’s custody.
I did consider the then/than but than seemed correct to me as it was a comparison between two things to me, so I went for the coin flip… seems it’s pretty much always then when I’m not sure which it’d be. I know roughly what they mean, I just end up using than a great more often than it seems it like I probably should. The best solution is to go type it into word a processor as those have opinions these days, but with a page like this I fiddled with the dialogue a lot after the word processor step (obviously :D)
Anyway; should be fixed, thanks 🙂
It’s actually quite simple to keep straight.
“Then” is a comparison of time, “than” is a comparison of attribute (size, speed, age, etc).
Try using a mnemonic such as “then when , than ran (as in ran faster than)” or just “then when”.
But this isn’t a comparison of time, it’s a comparison of things (Ashvalt’s law vs. the Consul’s law), which is why I find it confusing. I know roughly that then is comparison of time (or sequence of events) and than is a comparison of difference between things (greater than less than) but it’s not clear to me why this would be “then” in that context (not saying folks are wrong, I’m sure they are not, just that this is the case where I just flip a coin, though I’ve come to conclude that when I consider it a coin flip, the correct answer is essentially always “then” and “than” is almost ever only used in greater than/less than context).
As I recall you have a software background: think of ‘than’ as a comparison operator (>, <, etc), while 'then' applies after the comparison (if (x) then do stuff).
Not a native speaker, but once a philologist’s assistant, so feel free to ignore my ramblings …
Except for some rare (dialectal and/or archaic) cases, “than” always goes with a comparative, explicit or implicit. Sometimes the comparative in question is somewhat formal in nature, as in “other than” or “rather than”. And sometimes, that “other” is omitted …
Even more confusingly, in some of those archaic cases, “than” is used in reference to the “when”: “Scarcely had I explained the rule than an exception came to mind” (thank you, Merriam-Webster). So there’s a “than”/”when” to go with the usual “then”/”when”. :p
In the present case, however, we do not have a comparative, but rather an “if/then” kind of construct. Conditionals. As a software engineer, you might be familiar with that one. Yes, syntactically we have here a question rather than an “if” clause, but “then” serves the same purpose – generally, it can be rewritten as “in that case”, which, again, a software engineer might be familiar with.
In other senses, constructs with “then” can be rewritten using “(at) the time” or “subsequently”. If those three cover it all (and I think they might), then “then” might be easier to recognize than “than”. 😉
Got it; I’ll replace all “then” and “than” with logical operators || if/else statements || switch statements. I think I can do that 😀
I should note that I have a working solution to this usually, which is to copy the dialogue in Google Docs (or some other word processor) and let it figure this out (as it’s good at that) it is just sometimes obvious when I skipped that step (due to fiddling with words after I’d already scripted the page, which I do a lot… I often tweak wording all the way up to the deadline and have a bad habit of doing that right on the page).
I find it a little humorous there is a belief that the rules simply aren’t known. If the linguistic problem was as simple as not knowing the rules, a quick internet search would resolve it.
The real issue is that Past has placed to be and things to do. Grammar be damned, it’s just not important to him!
This is all the more true when we’re all so willing to act as his cloud source spell/ grammar checkers.
The real solution is to build up the buffer so the comics have time to age in Patreon before hitting the site.
Now we convinced him to quit his job. I’ve never heard of a Mrs Past, so talking him into a divorce probably doesn’t get us anywhere.
Past? How do you feel about giving up sleep? I’m not talking about going down to 4 hours a night, because I think you’re already there. I’m suggesting that maybe you’re one of those people who just doesn’t need to sleep. Try it. You might like it!
If you need help the first few days (habits can be so hard to break, I know), I can poke you with nails, light matches under your feet, filch all the sheets and blankets and mattresses, or any number of things. Just ask. I’m willing.
Panel 9: as long as you are IN MY CUSTODY. Panel 11: where your brother is.
Your panel 11 comment, I don’t understand your correction. The text is already worded and spelled that way.
I thought Kally meant that the kid had a brother, instead of a bother.
Yes; should be brother. Fixed.
I guess Panel 9 doesn’t need to be fixed?
If you mean the “in custody” vs. in my custody” I left out “my” intentionally there, as technically speaking she’s in the bureau’s custody, not his; this may not be correct way of speaking (I wouldn’t sure of that) but it’s what he intends to say at least.
oh.
As Ashvalt cannot protect her if she were to fall into IDS custody or Resh custody, an “our” custody might be in order… But it doesn’t really matter.